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my other posts in topix.com

my other some posts in topix.com.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T8CORIQR49LRVO5D5/p3 #54 :
Dinar Chelny, Russia (it’s my IP’s) Mar 18, 2010 :

#2 “Beards are not compulsory in Islam. May be a fashion
and personal liking.”
no. allah said: do not change what allah created. this mean that adult men should have beard if it grows. and people should not shave it and make it like it does not grow.
#9 “There was even a fake beard business going. Young men were harrased if their beards weren’t lon enough. ”
if this is true. i do not believe. this is not correct to make fake beard because allah said: be far from lie. young men should not be harrassed of course, because beard do not grow to some young enough men…

to #52 :
“don’t cut down trees” – they should not be cut just for that some people think it is beautiful and should not be cut while they are too young and can grow larger, these apply to natural trees, if trees are planted by men may be cutting to make them do not bother each other is some correct but more correct is to let them grow naturally and plant them as natural way as men able.
“don’t build buildings” – indeed, attempt covering buildings with plants or locate them underground look good, but why not build, why this is not as god made you think there are mountains like buildings.
“don’t cut your hair” – yes, do not cut to 0 centimeters long, but cut it time to time so that it is not too long.
“don’t pierce your ears” – yes, this is correct.
“don’t wear makeup” – yes, this is correct, and also in some cases it is lie, for that also prohibited.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TO510Q8GDOJ88H4IH #5 :
Dinar Chelny, Russia Mar 18, 2010 :

“But if Saudi Arabia, of all places, can change the law and recognize that little girls have the right to grow up normally, that will be an act heard around the world.”
correct is not to disallow to marry but to save right of girls and boys to not marry if they do not want.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T2P8PI5IUNQM8L80S :

“Shouldnt this be banned now? ” are you muslim? that should be made as said allah. if there is 4 witness, or and and other things that are said in quran, that person should be killed by throwing stones. by the way it is reliable compared to what i have seen in one picture in internet: shutting with gun and people see that from far, that may be lie, fake killing, i thought.
but i think this may be is not for persons who is not muslim or made his criminality before he become muslim.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T2P8PI5IUNQM8L80S #7 :

“Shouldnt this be banned now? ” are you muslim? that should be made as said allah. if there is 4 witness, or and and other things that are said in quran, that person should be killed by throwing stones. by the way it is reliable compared to what i have seen in one picture in internet: shutting with gun and people see that from far, that may be lie, fake killing, i thought.
and i think this may be is not for persons who is not muslim or made his criminality before he become muslim.

#9, of course this do not change, other people also in much cases mother or father of somebody.

and let i add some thought:
if person becomes muslim, it means that he says like “kill me with stones if i make that criminality”, so it is his own decision.

there is answer to such words:
cairene:

where did allah say that?

… Did you read the first verse? It calls for four witnesses if anyone accuses them of lewdness.

Now, pray tell..where does it say “stone them to death”? ”

i also do not know that yet.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/sikh/T22ISM5LL2UJ700NJ/p12 #264 :

if sikh do not believe to life after death this is not true religion.

it’s simple. just persons will be recreated. what is a person. it is almost a bunch of molecules, is not it. so just this construction will be reconstructed somewhere somehow, it may be will constructed not from similar molecules like here but from other structures but meaning of the person will be equal.
where is somewhere somehow and sometime – time goes long long to future is not it and the universe goes far far away, is not it, and must be just places to what nothing can arrive even if it goes far far away from here for example a Oxyz universe in mind, ie parallel universe, so in some of all that places there are full or slightly modified copies of you and one of them may be burn(be burned) in hell and other of them sits in paradise and one of them waits decision of court.
you can decide now to which of that your copies you are going to live their lives, ie your feeling of life in your feature living.

even if person i snot “just bunch of molecules”, the creator who created us first time can create us again. this is said in quran. what is in #267 is what thought i myself.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/sikh/TRE4UBU5NUTTJU2VJ/p13 #275 :

Yasmin, if sikhs think there is no life after death it is not correct religion.
you said about hadiths. do not respect them very much, there are lot of fake hadiths, i think, if hadith is not like what said in quran, do not believe it.

#272 “..2b killed ..”, do show also cite of neighbour ayats where allah says: you can only kill how much they killed you, not more. and also you say “killed” but in ayat you shown it is said “opposition ends”.

no, i said wrongly it is neighbour ayat, it is in 2nd sura:
2:190 : ” And kill/fight in God’s way/sake those who kill/fight you , and do not transgress/violate , that God does not love/like the transgressors/violators .”
then in 2:191:
“And fight/kill them, where/when you defeated/caught up with them , and bring/drive them out from where/when they brought/drove you out, and the treason/misguidance (is) stronger (worse than) the fighting/killing, and do not fight/kill them at the Mosque the Forbidden/Sacred , until they fight/kill you in it, so if they fought/killed you, so fight/kill them, like that is the disbelievers’ reward/reimbursement .”

continue #279 :
2:192 : If they give up disbelief and fighting, God is All-forgiving and All-merciful.
2:193 : And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.

ayats about that all ayats are true:
4:82 : So do they not consider The Koran, and if (it) were from at other than God, they would have found in it much difference/disagreement.
13:36 : And those whom We gave them The Book they rejoice/delight with what was descended to you. And from the groups/parties who denies some/part of it, say: “But I was ordered/commanded that I worship God, and I do not share/make partners with Him, to Him I call, and to Him (is) my return.”
15:90 : Such as We send down for those who make division,
15:91 : Those who break the Qur’an into parts.

so as here are ayats about that killing “kafir”s must be not more than they previously killed muslims, this ayat is true(because all ayats are true), so it restricts what said in other ayats.

#278: “but unlike the islamic heaven (which is …), Sikh heaven is …”
in quran allah says that in paradise will be what person likes.
“islamic heaven (which is full of sexSlaves -ONLY 4 men)”
– no, in quran allah says that in paradise will be spouses. so i think it is both for man and woman person will be spouses there, if they like.
“In the highest ultimate heaven there is only Truth & bliss (no need 4 earthly sexy pleasures as described in koran/hadiths/sunna).” – hm person is person, person has body, if you do not have body it is not you anymore, it is something else.

(Mar 19, 2010 : )

“u didnt reply to my observation that Muslims are permtted to lie for Religion, save family, save self … ”
allah says: be far from lie words.
and nowhere in quran there is allowing of lie. so may be if there are hadiths allowing lie, they may be fake.

what about lie in war. i have some thoughts. when somebody comes to kill you at night he does not say “hey, wake up and run away” , so he lies. there is ayat about that if one person broke nose of other person, people can broke nose of that person, if he broke a tooth, his one tooth can be broken by people, court. so if he lies, may be, also somebody can lie to him for that. when enemy comes with war in much cases they lie themselves, may be braking agreement with muslims to not fight each other.

what you said about lie in #278 i do not understand quite well because i do not know english language well enough.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TQILP4G9BT54DUNQA :

there is no need to write answer to this, anybody who check this cases/issues see that what is written in quran is correct and what you said is incorrect.
you have just copied and pasted this. have you checked these?
i think there are already many answers to these in the internet.

about other my posts that should be here i have written here: http://qdb.wp.kukmara-rayon.ru/2010/03/21/topix-com-is-premoderated-and-there-is-bad-moderation/